|date:||Fri, 17 May 2019 01:51:28 +0200|
|description:||mkone: fix man target (thanks Amavect)
> mkone and mkmany have backwards targets for installing man pages.
> This patch makes 'mk man' actually work for mkfiles that include mkone.
> mkmany is not easily fixed without breaking changes.
> It may go without saying that external repos should write their own mkfiles.
1 Buttons are for idiots.2 Why are you guys so fork paranoid? Do you want everyone to vote for the same political party, too?3 I think your computer science teachers are still teaching you from books written in the 80's, when the word "micro-kernel" was associated with a future utopia.4 But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all (be they people or companies), for any purpose they wish to use it, including modification, use, peeing on, or even integration into baby mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped on Australia.5 You did not create these mailing lists, so you can take your opinions about why these lists were created and shove them up your ass.6 I am simply astounded at some of the things people keep repeating. I don't mean this applies to everyone, but is there a high quantity of attention deficit disorder in our user community? Or retards? Or is it just the same old trolling? OpenBSD does not incorporate non-free software.7 Scaling isn't really our concern; I barely know what the word means. There is one group of people who we do know scales. Whiners. They scale really well.8 I am very easy to get along with, but I don't have time to waste being nice to people who are being stupid.9 Hardly surprising. Apple. They build crap and make you pay extra.10 You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes.11 In the modern world of search engines, this question lands at the same level as trolling.12 You are very confused.13 Have you considered trying to live 100% without our software?14 Your grief would seem more sincere if didn't look like a shopping list.15 You are not listening.16 You enabled things which are disabled for a good reason.17 You are missing the point. Your bug report is huge, but we have no idea what went wrong.18 It is pretty clear you are a troll.19 No, please, don't explain.20 You obviously have zero experience.21 You clearly cannot read.22 You better get back to class; your potty break is over.23 Go read the source code some time.24 Nope.25 No.26 Bullshit.27 The rest of your new email is bullshit, too.28 Noone deserves anything from us. People get good things, and they are happy. The developers in this project do the best they can writing innovative software, and will not accept preaching from pompous self-entitled American pricks like you.29 I believe you deserve to stop running the software.30 You are wrong.31 Don't be ridiculous.32 Yes, we should build a survey. And a wiki. It would be awesome. We'd get rich.33 One word can change the meaning of a sentence. You failed at what you intended, and you also confused people.34 You made a decision to keep running code that old, and thus you are on your own. You won't spend time figuring out which one of our changes over 2 years might fix the problem you are having, and we won't either.35 Your hopes are misplaced.36 I still think you are a loser.37 If you have endured a real bug for a long time, and not filed a bug report to have it fixed.. and then feel it is your right to scold people who attempt to explain the bug, then quite frankly, then YOU TOTALLY SUCK.38 You are astoundingly naive. We simply don't need the grief of entertaining users like you.39 Basically what you submitted was not a bug report.40 User is using a heavily tuned kernel and refuses to listen to advice about de-tuning all those things; as a result, noone can help him.41 Holy cow, you are dense.42 You don't know what you are talking about, and you don't seem to have the ability to wrap your mind around all the parts that are involved.43 I am not reading your mails again.44 Totally false.45 You must not be reading the same code I am.46 Your approach is wrong.47 What you just said was utterly careless.48 No. You misread the code.49 All the many eyes are apparently attached to a lot of hands that type lots of words about many eyes, and never actually audit code.50 I am so bloody dissapointed in the community that uses our stuff.51 What a dismal world view.52 That is a simplistic viewpoint held by your simplistic mind.53 I hope that one day due process is denied you.54 Such an American viewpoint.55 It didn't work out for Don Quixote either.56 You have it entirely backwards.57 But you decided you are special, and don't want us to help us help you.58 Oh good grief, grow up.59 Things change. Learn to cope.60 Bye bye.61 Stop thinking of only yourself.62 You don't listen well either.63 The comedy just never ends.64 Hahahahaha. That's a good one.65 I have a hard time believing you.66 You are using FreeBSD, aren't you.67 These programs are all bad.68 If you expected any of us to reply as if we are contractors or your employees, you came to the wrong place.69 If you want the answers you are looking for, do the work yourself.70 That is not our problem.71 If you are not careful, why should we be?72 Enjoy your windmill tilting.73 I should probably ask -- did you even read the panic? Is the wording too poor to understand (and thus result in peeking at the code) or is the problem above the keyboard?74 Oh, but linux people told you it was the best. I get it.75 God god, do you live in some stupid fantasy world?76 You already have a prompt that asks you that question.77 Since your PR contains absolutely zero information about your machine I am sending you back to kindergarden. Because you totally suck.78 We'll be waiting for your fix then.79 Come on. Read it carefully.80 You have no right to speak.81 It's a pity you don't go jump in a lake and drown yourself.82 Thanks for telling me do so some reading, but a google of your name on these mailing lists will show a 10 year pattern of you not being able to self-help. Something to do with your parents, probably.83 Hey look everyone, it's another uneducated user mouthing off on a noisy mailing list. He goes blah blah blah, loving the sound of his own noise.84 I don't see any humility.85 What a load of bullshit.86 You are killing us with hyperbole. It is now hard to take anything you say seriously.87 FULL STOP.88 Why don't you figure that out.89 Your usage case is "Give me a button to push".90 Balony.91 Anyways, who cares.92 We couldn't care what you believe, unless you have diffs of your own to submit.93 You're kidding.94 You are making up rules as you go along. Why don't you go read the code?95 Oh cut the crap.96 Frankly, I think you are a whiner.97 In your dreams..98 No. You must be at least this tall to use OpenBSD; sorry -- you are a midget.99 You've got it all wrong.100 You'll experience anguish, and then if you try to ask for sympathy a lot of people will laugh at you.101 I don't know for certain, but I believe you are just making things up as you go along, because you are nothing but a troll.102 In summary -- the entire effort is a complete load of crap.103 Oh come on, admit it, you are wrong.104 That's a lot of words.105 Sorry, but I have lost all appetite to help you.106 Oh sorry, I forgot to think like an American for a second there.107 If you have so many ideas you should go ahead and start your own project. Good luck building a successfull project based on 'ideas'.108 I'm not even going to read to the end.109 You are a prick.110 Tell linus. You can google for his email address.111 Just pathetic. Hope you actually get a life sometime.112 Wrong.113 You missed the point.114 Don't worry. Most of us see your name and at that moment delete the mail. This reply is an exception.115 You realize that you are going to run into thousands of other problems as a result of that practice?116 What you suggest is absolute rubbish. It is just talk -- not action -- but furthermore you don't have a clue what you are talking about.117 Really. How interesting.118 Let's keep it simple. Why don't you just go away, and stop acting the fool?119 I am just plain fed up with the bullshit you cowards spew.120 I don't believe you. You suggested it because you only thought of your own benefit, not of the amount of work others would have to do.121 Have you thought this through, at all?122 Some days I want to just quit and say fuck it all.123 All I ever wanted was a hobby. If this pathetic slob doesn't like our hobby, they should stop relying on it.124 Let idiots suffer on their own.125 The point is that you are a crybaby.126 We really are not interested in the story of your life.127 So you presume.128 You probably rape children in your spare time, and here you are, yelling at us for violating your perceived entitlement.129 Can you please leave?130 Now, again, please leave.131 You know, you have an option available to you regarding this. You could come to the conclusion that you are not entitled and stop posting, and it will work out better in the long term. I did not read anything more you said.132 Your attitude stinks. Good luck with life.133 Pulease...134 I don't know who you are, but you do nothing. What do you do?135 I don't see your name on any the source code. So you shut up, loser. Just go away.136 Perhaps we made mistakes. Perhaps they'll be changed. But you are just spouting bullshit.137 I am not being sarcastic. I truly am sick of having my time wasted.138 Yes you are wrong, and damn infuriating too.139 You need to learn how to listen.140 Read what it says.141 You just like listening to yourself talk. Shut up.142 Can you please stop acting as if you are smarter than us? I am sorry to say it, but we have thought this through for many hours by the time you show up to "play system designer".143 I don't see the point.144 Please don't.145 The best part is that noone cares about that.146 It is disgraceful to see what type of code being written these days.147 You accept how we do it, and you will shut up, or less service will be provided in the future.148 If you don't like it, run something else.149 I don't care.150 I don't give a shit.151 I really don't give a shit what you admire or not.152 You are a whiny snively jerk, and every time you open your mouth I go work on something else.153 Your sense of self-importance just makes other people not even want to try.154 I could not give a rats ass what you say.155 You just plain don't understand the problem.156 Your attitude is not very nice.157 You had me going for a moment.158 Wow, your process stinks.159 You need to read more carefully.160 If you are just grandstanding, please stop.161 Ah, we have another talker in the house.162 Perhaps you should get a good delicing.163 You'll never be a developer, so who cares?164 Oh my god, the tears! Look at his tears!165 Just give it up and get lost.166 Wow, you sure like to make presumptions.167 Thing is, you won't get help here.168 Your lack of any attempt to educate yourself is your problem.169 No, no no no no.170 No. You have it wrong. Go back to reading school.171 Come on.. stop making assumptions.172 We are not believers in buttons. Knobs are for knobs.173 Oh yeah, that's a great idea!174 I'm making fun of you.175 Whatever you did does not do what you think it does. In fact, I bet it is doing exactly the opposite of what you think it does.176 Don't be fooled.177 They are simplistic retards, not because they choose to be, but because their paychecks tell them to be so.178 Great.179 Oh, you're not going to do it? Oh you can't do it?180 No way.181 Except you are wrong.182 If some of you people keep insisting on having backwards compatibitity with the stone age, we'll have stone tools forever.183 I don't know why our mailing lists are always full of people who don't even understand what they are talking about.184 You guys just are not thinking.185 You've got to be kidding me.186 I won't look further since you have a history of not listening.187 There is no point in testing a diff which is wrong.188 Are you a troll?189 can you not read the prompt?190 you could try "make me sandwitch" and have the same effect.191 No, I am advocating that you TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN PROBLEMS YOURSELF.192 Learn your tools. From hammers to saws to cars to operating systems, it is all the same.193 That is balony.194 PHP is not part of OpenBSD.195 To me it sounds like you are used to paying a lot, and now you expect the same from us, who you don't pay at all. That is a rude approach.196 Who's the child now?197 We try our best to make it the best. Do you try your best to help us? I doubt it. So we try the best we can without people like you helping us.198 So learn to type correctly.199 Shame on you.200 This is an error in the manual page.201 whatever.202 I do not agree with your assessment.203 Why hold people who you don't pay to a higher standard than the people who you do pay?204 Stop spreading lies.205 Geez, you're not listening206 make of it what you will.207 Unfortunate.208 Be realistic.209 Sorry, but you are wrong.210 You are completely missing the point.211 If that workaround was the right thing to do, it would be the default.212 What happened is that you thought it was time to say something useless, which adds no value to the conversation.213 You are just a whiny boy who pisses on people who spent 2 years writing the code.214 In short, you are socially inept unappreciative asshole.215 Come on guys. Don't have me OK this.216 I see other projects falling into this problem all the time. It is awesome.217 Ha ha. I watch other projects.218 We won't commit it.219 Perhaps.220 I don't see any problem.221 As developers we make decisions which we believe serve our users the best.222 Wow, what's that got to do with anything?223 c++ is a pile of crap.224 You have this very wrong.225 Your code is completely wrong.226 No way.227 None of that matters here.228 I am not directing you.229 Wow. You sure do set the bar low.230 The rest of what you are yapping about does not matter.231 Do you think we care?232 God bless the people who employ you, they need the blessing.233 That's the process.234 Hey, stick a screw driver into your ear.235 Does it help anything? No.236 Ridiculous.237 You know better.238 Lacking a terse starting point, soon we have users who don't know where to start.239 Beautiful.240 the multiplicative effects are far too serious.241 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^242 If you believe strongly in this idea, you should take an entire operating system base and prove the case.243 Good luck!244 Totally wrong there.245 Uhm, that's a pretty weak argument.246 Standing alone, "compatibility with FOO" is not a very strong argument. What next, "compatibility with Xenix and Windows"?247 Too bad. You can use other software.248 I decided to make a guess as to the region you are from.249 Your request is ridiculous.250 The people who write code get to decide how they document it.251 Don't like it? Then walk away.252 The only person who did something useful, is the author of the software.253 There is a user community, and a development community.254 Listen to yourself, proud of the complex words you found in a dictionary.255 It is really amazing that so many people prefer to remain blissfully unaware.256 I have seen nothing I would qualify as a "bug report".257 Sorry, but it's the truth.258 So glad to have the expert speak.259 It is clear you don't understand the code that was commited.260 It is an obvious mechanism.261 Good luck.262 Autoinstall does not handle this type of problem either.263 I was quite unhappy when this "solution" was proposed initially, since solutions of that sort often lead to no true solution down the road.264 I really love how we keep getting advice.265 That's a great idea.266 That is not true.267 Maybe.268 It's so simple. Why didn't I think of it.269 I am going to make a guess here.270 Imagine you told us a lot about your life, and we gave you advice.271 If you want it done, do it yourself.272 I rather doubt it.273 You've missed the point.274 Wow, so many crazy suggstions.275 I completely doubt that.276 thanks for the lesson in logic.277 No, the original answer here is the right one.278 Please state your case very carefully and clearly.279 Right now, you are not talking facts.280 You are spreading misinformation.281 Why???282 NO WAY!283 That feels like a disservice to the world.284 This is total balony.285 Bullshit.286 Wow. What hostility.287 There's research and there is the real world.288 From time to time, mistakes sneak in.289 It is theoretically possible to give a loaded gun to a baby; things will probably work out fine.290 What is your solution?291 And what is your solution?292 I'm getting ready to declare you a kook293 In that situation, you would probably want to be left in piece.294 If you start your own successfull project, you also can develop your own set of reasons for doing any of a variety of operational things at any point in time.295 You seem to have a rather over-extented sense of entitlement296 Most people are not capable of writing good patches, so it would be unprofessional to ask such people to write patches.297 You are speaking like a child.298 You really need to write a single comprehensive bug report that has no inconsistancies.299 THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.300 Sigh.301 So read what I said again.302 Improvements come when people try to push forward along the curve.303 People like you...304 Let's follow that thought.305 Incorrect.306 I don't see the point.307 So that is the reason why my car stereo has two sets of volume control knobs..... with the second set located inside the engine compartment, so I have to stop at the side of the road, pop open the hood, and reach down along the hot engine to near where the oil filter is.308 Take that for what it is.309 Whatever you're doing, it is wrong.310 Riiiiiiiiight. Suuuuuuuure. Keep believing that.311 I would like to see some proof of that.312 That's not going to happen.313 Wow. No.314 You are showing that you can't do any research at all, but want to throw ideas out.315 Unlikely.316 Well...317 That is a very dangerous direction.318 I think this will cause further damage.319 Are you saying OpenBSD does it wrong, or that all the operating systems do it wrong?320 Wow, really thick skull you got there.321 Get real.322 You can decide what you do with your time, but you cannot decide what other people do with theirs.323 And then we move on?324 Are you kidding? Who does that help? Who?325 You have offered nothing.326 You overstate your worth.327 shrug328 In your dreams.329 Amazing isn't it?330 Oh now I sense some angst.331 See how bad things start to happen?332 But I think it is clear you aren't a programmer, and this is over your head.333 Did they pay you to write all that text?334 there is bullshit coming out of your mouth.335 The nastiest behaviour is "sense of entitlement".336 You are the type of people who create these situations.337 We rarely hear about success, because those people are just happy.338 Totall irrelevant.339 It is what it is. Work with it.340 In the interests of full disclosure, do you work for the government or sell to the government?341 I heard.342 you must know, i want no part in any politics.343 i'm trying to stay out of politics.344 there are fingers to point all the way around.345 am i making all this up? perhaps i am, but you don't have to dream my dreams.346 i was up at 9am, climbed a mountain, hiked 6 km through 4ft deep slush (the image you are supposed to get is of 12 million overturned slurpee cups, and of geting your groin wet in slurpee), nearly died eating beef vindaloo, wrote some code, talked on the phone, wrote mail, and now it's almost 4am and this is absolutely beyond ridiculous.347 who said that?348 why are you asking me?349 Then I guess you are just stupid.350 Since you don't supply diffs, you are a waste of skin.351 Huh? You've understood incorrectly.352 This approach is simplestic and wrong.353 This is not a conversation about your IPv6 connection.354 What problem are you trying to solve?355 Wow, what chatter.356 I don't understand society is producing a generation of people incapable of self-help.357 There are people who do that.358 Shrug.359 Chill dude.360 It is crap.361 Oh good god.362 I don't know you, maybe I am misinterpreting you.363 Wow, don't know where you got that from.364 You persist in reading too much into things.365 So this is a great way to lose focus.366 You can figure out what I'm not saying on this line.367 I think this is a trap.368 That is an interesting claim.369 ANSWER THE QUESTION.370 I am not playing any games. Let's look at the facts.371 I haven't even read this.372 I don't care.373 I quite dislike the direction this is going.374 Nothing ever changes, noone ever learns, noone cares.375 With your attitude, I beg you to please go run some other operating system.376 Why haven't you left? Please leave.377 Please leave immediately.378 Get over it.379 Please read the actual code.380 Was that neccessary?381 Handholding can go only so far.382 Please, not again.383 It is in the FAQ.384 Someone is totally full of shit.385 You are quite a character.386 I suspect money which goes into your bank account comes from an entity not quite on the same side as us.387 You have an agenda.388 So easy to be critical.389 Great conversation...390 Who do you work for? Governments?391 Please people, ignore him.392 I love this conversation.393 Amazing.394 Go a few cycles.395 Why?396 No really, precisely why do you trust us?397 What a joke.398 That is quite a fiction.399 Never expect a group to perform a task which an individual won't.400 We never said our code should be trusted.401 Since I value my sanity, I saw that report, and I ignored it.402 The complaint department is down the hall.403 Such strong words.404 It must be easy to sit in your chair and demand that others meet your expectations.405 Didn't you read the manual page?406 I think you are on your own.407 Nope.408 Look there is a disconnect.409 Fundamentally, OpenBSD is a research project.410 Hilarious.411 Your process seems to be "I don't understand the problem, so here is a diff"412 And now let's ask the question which matters.413 Did you think of that?414 You aren't even trying. PLONK.415 Oh just shut up.416 You aren't going to do shit because you don't have any skills.417 Thank you for adding the value of your words.418 This is idle chatter hoping someone supplies some secret sauce that makes a disparate audience with different demands all happy.419 Welcome to the real world.420 Sorry.421 Violates POSIX and C89, which violate best practice in this century.422 Look, this is rather simple.423 Oh really.424 It ends badly.425 I explained that.426 Alas.427 The NTP codebase is larger than the SSH codebase.428 Guess you don't understand internet.429 Can I ask what kind of plant are you?430 And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove your thesis?431 I am continually baffled by how often we have to explain this point, over and over and over again.432 Do not submit a new bug report.433 Let me be blunt. Your advice is bad.434 If as a general rule we all want better code running on our systems, where do you fit in?435 Nope!436 Sigh.437 Now you plainly don't sound like a developer type.438 What is your solution?439 You've got access to all this source code.440 If you can't study the world around you, you will remain ignorant.441 Don't worry.442 For contributions to the OpenBSD Project, I make the decision of how to spend it.443 Is that an accusation?444 Look, you'll be fine.445 Don't waste your money on a false ideal by someone who misunderstands modern hardware and the market forces.446 I've think you've had your say.447 You've had your say.448 Do you get it? I doubt it.449 How dreary.450 Anyways, your timing is atrocious!451 Look, stop being a child.452 Such hyperbole! Such drama!453 Reactive is not the same as proactive.454 Please run something else. You'll be happier. Really.455 The problem is you don't pay it backwards. You don't pay it forward. You don't pay at all. You just beg.456 I'll ask in a general fashion: Are you stupid?457 You don't provide any encouragement except for "me me! think of me!".458 You are out of touch.459 OpenBSD is not generally known as an exposed democracy.460 Are you going to do something -- beyond just being sarcastic?461 Highly unlikely.462 Thanks for including all the information in the report.463 Better question is: Why?464 Get back onto your meds.465 What a waste of words.466 Please people stop mailing me privately and asking.467 Wait and see.468 In general, you underestimate the effort involved.469 Well, I don't think the world will fall over as a result.470 NOT....471 I think this entire conversation is ridiculous, right from the start.472 I do not agree with those assessments.473 In that case, what's the fuss?474 Well....475 I disagree on all those points.476 Completely wrong, and I have no no idea where you got that from!477 Read the man page again!478 You are scaring me.479 I believe something is not being understood here.480 I don't normally do this.481 Well sorry.482 I don't see any reason.483 Oh something is broken?484 Please show your work.485 Let's get serious and personal here for a second. In other aspects of life, do you behave the same?486 That is kind of crazy, isn't it.487 That is an incorrect assessment.488 That is only the beginning of it.489 This is more than a meme. It is a plot.490 Boggles the mind.491 Please.492 You know that is bullshit right?493 Please stop subscribing us to your motivations.494 That is false.495 You are speaking in riddles.496 That's nice.497 You are so full of BS!498 You are quite a persistant idiot.499 You don't know jack shit about computers or electronics, that much is obvious.500 Once again you show that you don't know shit.501 You are on your own.502 you have confused yourself.503 Well there is this funny story about when I hacked into RMS's firmware-driven keyboard controller, and managed to grap his root password.504 You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it.505 You've seen something on the shelf, and it has all sorts of pretty colurs, and you've bought it.506 Feeling a lot of dejavu here.507 People should be careful what they ask for508 Aww come on, you had us going until then.509 I think I hear of someone doing this about every 10 years.510 I made none of the claims you are composing.511 That makes no sense.512 Cannot.513 Your process here is really strange.514 How bizzare.515 This conversation is going far too meta.516 What's the goal.517 You have a diff?518 What you are trying to do is insane, wrong, and entirely unsupported.519 SERIOUSLY??520 If you turn the forums you frequent into your help desk, you are taking away their ability to focus on delivering you the software you use.521 There are too few of us, we cannot take on every problem.522 Everyone, please ignore these trolls who are cross-posting.523 Essentially, you are on your own. :-)524 I am not so sure.525 obviously.526 I don't know, but I'll think about it later, because I am busy.527 So the original idea wasn't yours. And now you think it can't work. And you are still talking about it. I see. Very interesting.528 That statement is full of potential for misunderstanding, and cannot be left alone.529 I was wrong.530 Thanks.531 Careful there :-)532 That is incorrect advice for the OpenBSD world.533 Your mistake.534 This bug report totally sucks.535 what is "this case"?536 my advice: walk away from this one.537 Generally Unix has no way of doing this.538 So what do you really mean here?539 Is a crash a performance impact?540 what is the goal?541 Your emails only contain opinions.542 words words words words543 Are you done?544 Doesn't that send shivers down your spine?545 Your bug report is too incomplete. Can't help you.546 No.547 We'd rather jump off a cliff.548 Good luck with that.549 Looking forward to you providing code which solves the problem.550 This feature is probably older than you.551 it is behaving *exactly* as intended.552 There are a few compromises.553 I think I know a perfect candidate to take this further: You.554 Seriously?555 The OpenBSD process is quite well understood. Use the best methods, doubt what you do, refractor.556 Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick.557 Does your mother know?558 It's great that you have an opinion.559 Run something else! We don't care!560 That's a load of bull.561 Your opinions count for zero.562 To achieve merit, you must do the homework you assigned yourself.563 Get serious.564 and I wanna build a rocket ship...565 No thanks.566 The problem is obvious.567 If you don't have the skill to do it, well that's too bad...568 You didn't do your homework, and it blew up in your face. Then you wrote a few paragraphs. Then I replied. That is the whole sad story.569 I tried to read the rest of what you wrote. It makes no sense.570 I find this discussion pretty uninteresting.571 I wish more people would find real bugs to fix.572 :-)573 I'm done.574 I don't think you understand what is being done here.575 Funny.576 I don't see that.577 I don't have an answer for you.578 I don't see the purpose of that.579 No.580 Doctor it hurts when I stab myself in the eye.581 I believe you are not trying to contribute anything valuable with your comment.582 are you being trolled now?583 You are not tall enough to ride.584 ^^^^^^^585 People who submit reports which are missing information should feel terrible.586 Absolutely no way, that makes no sense.587 Kill it.588 On that matter, I'd say tough.589 It's not black magic.590 Sigh.591 Disagree strongly.592 Don't hold me responsible for the shortcuts.593 And noone cares what you like or dislike.594 There will be little or no thought.595 I am very sceptical.596 A related issue is lots of people don't know anything about anything.597 Look, your statement is false.598 That is the result of a mis-configuration on your part.599 That is not best practice.600 This does not matter.601 It is risk, all gigantic risk.602 Sometimes people put a bad idea into an RFC.603 Why -- to hurt people?604 Oh the situation is much worse than that.605 I disagree.606 The same model is not applicable to everything.607 This is another offer which will be rejected.608 No.609 Tired of the suggestions.610 The end.611 Sorry, I see it the other way around.612 This is how rumours start, I guess.613 That is incorrect.614 That is the worst possible advice ever.615 I am really impressed by the analytical skills I observe here.616 Maybe the fortress fell over because you didn't have enough Lego.617 Why are you doing this?618 I still don't see the use case.619 You haven't justified it.620 No.621 I have changed my mind.622 Whoa.623 I don't see how that helps anything.624 What do you want us to do about it?625 I think you are done here.626 Whoah.627 because.628 No, it is not.629 Why?630 Please supply a good justification why that is good.631 End of story.632 Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes.633 Incorrect.634 Not exactly.635 We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports.636 Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions...637 If you don't care, then don't talk about it.638 Your voice does not count.639 that is really not a useful bug report.640 Yeah, you sure are the cool dude.641 Things change.642 Whoa.643 No?644 Expectation management is a bitch.645 There has been a lot of discussion about this.646 Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you.647 That is not right.648 You are on your own.649 That is not true.650 That's nice.651 not everything is perfect.652 I don't like it.653 We prefer creating a world that is simpler.654 Are we finished here?655 that is intentional.656 Why not delete it?657 Pick a position -- then defend it.658 Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm.659 Pick a damn position, and declare it.660 If software sucks, say so.661 Who didn't solve that problem? People like you.662 Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone.663 unfeasible!664 There is no juxtaposition.665 AND WHERE IS THE PONY.666 It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either.667 You bought some plastic.668 You sir, are just wastewater.669 Your words are just bile.670 You are way out of line with the software development community.671 Your interpretations are hostile.672 I could be doing far better things than making CDs.673 No way.674 You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother.675 [rest deleted]676 if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better677 No thanks, it does not make sense.678 No, you should not.679 We do not have magic to do this at the moment.680 Well, openbsd is not linux.681 This is likely to change, in some way.682 Thanks for the feedback :-)683 No, it is not.684 Why?685 Please supply a good justification why that is good.686 End of story.687 Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes.688 Incorrect.689 Not exactly.690 We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports.691 Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions...692 If you don't care, then don't talk about it.693 Your voice does not count.694 that is really not a useful bug report.695 Yeah, you sure are the cool dude.696 Things change.697 Whoa.698 No?699 Expectation management is a bitch.700 There has been a lot of discussion about this.701 Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you.702 That is not right.703 You are on your own.704 That is not true.705 That's nice.706 not everything is perfect.707 I don't like it.708 We prefer creating a world that is simpler.709 Are we finished here?710 that is intentional.711 Why not delete it?712 Pick a position -- then defend it.713 Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm.714 Pick a damn position, and declare it.715 If software sucks, say so.716 Who didn't solve that problem? People like you.717 Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone.718 unfeasible!719 There is no juxtaposition.720 AND WHERE IS THE PONY.721 It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either.722 You bought some plastic.723 You sir, are just wastewater.724 Your words are just bile.725 You are way out of line with the software development community.726 Your interpretations are hostile.727 I could be doing far better things than making CDs.728 No way.729 You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother.730 [rest deleted]731 if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better732 No thanks, it does not make sense.733 No, you should not.734 We do not have magic to do this at the moment.735 Well, openbsd is not linux.736 This is likely to change, in some way.737 Thanks for the feedback :-)738 you will only receive crocodile tears from me.739 Well perhaps you should just leave if you don't like the truth?740 It is all about your actions.741 Survival in the universe requires more than copy-and-paste.742 Summary: The OP has a learning disability.743 Frankly, who cares?744 Get off my computer kidz.745 That stands against my principles.746 Take a chill pill, or participate in improving it, or wait your turn.747 When things go wrong, we contain their influence.748 sorry to hear you don't understand749 this is not really a forum to attempt education750 Look -- did you read the manual page?751 It seems you did all that, but didn't read the manual pages.752 Not all errata are for security.753 Undeducated *check* opinioned *check*754 There is no way to forgive people who intentionally step in the shit.755 It sounds as if you don't understand what happens.756 So what is learned here?757 I don't have an answer.758 Let me get this straight.759 I see your character...760 You can do whatever you want.761 That is completely insane.762 That's the kind of comment that leads me to take bug reports less seriously in the future...763 Crazy.764 Please.765 I really doubt the drama of this.766 whatever767 Look.768 Well, is mentioning this even important?769 I'll ask the question: Why are you sure you need that?770 pretty sad, but I guess that's the way the world works771 There is a bug in your brain.772 You yammer yammer yammer without detail.773 Something is eating your brain.774 It depends on what you want.775 They are manual pages, not manual books.776 You are welcome to spend your time building an entire new subsystem and proving the value of your work.777 Go knock yourself out.778 Sorry you lost me.779 I can't tell if you are supporting a useless idea, or declaring that a useless idea is not worth supporting.780 So lets just yak about it, right?781 Yes, I said asshole.782 I'm astounded by this situation.783 It is hard to believe people will want that.784 Why the surprise?785 Basically, this cannot be oversimplified by 1 line questions followed by 1 line answers.786 I'm sorry, but I don't get it.787 Bootstrapping problem is bootstrapping problem.788 That is not possible.789 You really haven't got a clue.790 You can go read the source.791 That is incorrect.792 We don't manage dependencies.793 You haven't justified need.794 Careful what you ask for.795 Demands aren't well received.796 A detailed bug report helps. 1 line of whining doesn't.797 4. Roll up sleeves and fix the issue.798 If you don't understand how computers and networking work, I'm sure you can find another job.799 Not everyone is suited to every role.800 Another solution is to smash that device with a hammer.801 Did that help?802 Some of you will think this is a total joke.803 Overdocumenting isn't a strength.804 If you want it working, you will need to get it fixed.805 If you really wanted it fixed you have the src code.806 Please leave here.807 Just you, I think.808 That won't work.809 If I see a mail which isn't plain text, I delete it.810 someone in linux land went off the map here.811 only thinking of yourself, and missing the point.812 No, what you want does not exist.813 I said no the first time, and provided a detailed explaination.814 Why did you feel the need jump in? Ichy butt?815 Let's just stop this.816 You just aren't capable of listening to what is being said.817 I'd like my lawn mowed.818 I think the entire approach is dumb.819 There was once a better path.820 Animated sparkle.821 I'm not sure what else you expect.822 Punting stupid problems along forever just gets worse and worse.823 In a decade, what will this mess look like?824 When people push buttons, they will eventually hit something undocumented.825 I just came to the conclusion you are a loudmouthed jackass.826 So go away.827 That doesn't make sense.828 Well the options are: Get involved and do the work, or watch.829 There is no policy.830 Twice the work == twice the work.831 Unfortunately, you cannot really help.832 Learn the magic, change the magic.833 Oh, so you are just some boasty guy on the net834 You own all the pieces.835 You are wrong.836 No way.837 You are showing inexperience.838 No, not really.839 Basically you are saying we should just change everything, consequences and corectness be damned.840 Uhm, in your dreams.841 Not everything in unix is perfect.842 That sucks.843 That is working as intended.844 ktrace or it didn't happen.845 The solution is obvious.846 By the way who are you?847 You come off as pretty uncharitable.848 More complexity.849 I don't think you are listening.850 Shrug.851 I discussed world peace in a bar once.852 Lots of words. No action.853 Or you can go it all yourself. Why don't you do that?854 It is pretty obvious you are only thinking of yourself, so you should go create your own system.855 But we don't need to put up with your demands.856 Adjust your attitude user857 I believe this conversation is over, because you have no credibility.858 Oh are you just talking?859 Inventing crazy shit is pointless.860 Lots of misunderstandings in there.861 Mitigations should be as cheap as possible to satisfy the goal.862 Then it is probably over your head. Not much I can do about that.863 That interpretation is wrong.864 Don't change my words.865 It is over your head. Or learn to read. Or learn to not reply before you think.866 You have a self-entitlement issue.867 IF YOU ARE A GIGANTIC SLOPPY FAT PIG YOU SURE DO868 Please go fluff up your sense of selfworth elsewhere.869 There are no workarounds.870 You been running that on the internet?871 That'd be like leaving a running chainsaw on the floor at a daycare center.872 When something is dangerous, we get rid of it.873 Sometimes it is almost like there is a stream of people who want us to stop trying.874 Oh, cut your crap.875 So fix it, or pay someone to fix it.876 Oh the righteous indignation of public discussion!877 Have you ever heard of the concept of helping yourself?878 Don't believe all the promises you hear.879 Unfortunately noone cares.880 not that it matters.881 Sometimes there's a vast difference between a person who declares something useful and easy to do, and the reality. Sometimes the person is just plain wrong.882 I hope noone helps you.883 You are not helping out.884 You are doing the bare mininum and tapping on a keyboard.885 The socket layer will conspire against you.886 so much drama887 Your process will not solve anything.888 But this isn't a pony shop.889 Shut up890 It is documented.891 Sorry, your interpretation is incorrect.892 Do we want the 1% solution? No.893 I triage bugs by hitting 'd' in my mail reader.894 I disagree895 And please stop using that word.896 I doubt anyone believes your extremely vague assertions.897 Who cares?898 You are making stuff up.899 I don't think so.900 you've all been trollolololololololo'd901 Why?902 Are we done here?903 You can search for the rest of the information yourself.904 No.905 No.906 Not going to explain further.907 Get your shit together908 oh my, the moral outrage909 Let it go, and consider leaving for good.910 Do you have evidence?911 Diffs are welcome.912 Please don't do that.913 I don't understand what you are saying.914 I doubt it.915 Well, I disagree.916 I don't believe any of this.